{"id":103,"date":"2009-01-27T18:48:00","date_gmt":"2009-01-27T18:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/anjo.pt\/wp\/marimekko\/2009\/01\/27\/be-citizen-again-hard-work\/"},"modified":"2009-01-27T18:48:00","modified_gmt":"2009-01-27T18:48:00","slug":"be-citizen-again-hard-work","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/anjo.pt\/marimekko\/2009\/01\/27\/be-citizen-again-hard-work\/","title":{"rendered":"Be citizen again &#8211; hard work"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Now that I need to become a citizen again, leaving the cern paradise, I find again the bureaucracies in Portugal. And how they try to improve the system by having several web pages with lots of information, talking about lots of laws and using their jargon, but not helping much when you want a simple thing.<\/p>\n<p>Then I find the portuguese systems in general with so many complications that I understand how time is lost trying to find which case suits you.<\/p>\n<p>Again I understand why I got married and divorced in another country and my own country never got to know it.<\/p>\n<p>In Portugal now there is a identity card (or citizen card, as they call it) which comprises many numbers in one. Basically there are four different numbers in the card. One for identity, other for fiscal reasons, other for heath system and last one for social security. I wonder if I&#8217;ll have them all, because I never paid social security neither I will start this year in a voluntary basis. Hope this does not crash their system. Anyway, soon I will try to make this new citizen card and first task is to find the least queue possible.<\/p>\n<p>In the all-in-one shop (called citizen shop) in Lisbon there was 4 hours average wait time for doing the card. Well, not for doing, for requesting, because then it will be ready in couple weeks. And forget about the &#8216;urgent&#8217; mode, even paying more. It does not exist yet.<\/p>\n<p>But my last few days were passed in a good part of the free time on looking how to become citizen and if\/how I can get social security number. One phone call, fill the form on the web page, link X. Filled and next day an email:<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">O (A) benef (a) n\u00e3o consta  inscrito(a),<\/span><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman;\"> <\/span><\/span><br \/><span lang=\"pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">Conforme termina\u00e7\u00e3o do NISS da Entidade  Empregadora<\/span><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman;\"> <\/span><\/span><br \/><span lang=\"pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">0 , 1, 2 , 3 &#8211; fax 21 842 42 73<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\"><a href=\"mailto:ana.afonso.teixeira@seg-social.pt\" target=\"_blank\">ana.afonso.teixeira@seg-<wbr>social.pt<\/a> ou<\/span><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\"><a href=\"mailto:lia.p.carvalho@seg-social.pt\" target=\"_blank\">lia.p.carvalho@seg-social.pt<\/a> ou<\/span><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\"><a href=\"mailto:m.ceu.dias@seg-social.pt\" target=\"_blank\">m.ceu.dias@seg-social.pt<\/a><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman;\">  <\/span><\/span><br \/><span lang=\"pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">4 , 5 , 6 &#8211; fax 21 846  04 81 &#8211; OU por email para<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\"><a href=\"mailto:m.clara.cunha@seg-social.pt\" target=\"_blank\">m.clara.cunha@seg-social.pt<\/a> ou<\/span><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\"><a href=\"mailto:alcina.c.cunha@seg-social.pt\" target=\"_blank\">alcina.c.cunha@seg-social.pt<\/a><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman;\">  <\/span><\/span><br \/><span lang=\"pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">7 , 8 ,9 &#8211; fax 21 842 42  10<\/span><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\"><a href=\"mailto:m.lourdes.povoa@seg-social.pt\" target=\"_blank\">m.lourdes.povoa@seg-social.pt<\/a> ou<\/span><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\"><a href=\"mailto:m.joaquina.marques@seg-social.pt\" target=\"_blank\">m.joaquina.marques@seg-social.<wbr>pt<\/a> ou<\/span><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\"><a href=\"mailto:maria.c.vaz@seg-social.pt\" target=\"_blank\">maria.c.vaz@seg-social.pt<\/a><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman;\">  <\/span><\/span><br \/><span lang=\"pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">Dever\u00e1 enviar a seguinte  documenta\u00e7\u00e3o;<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">Sendo de Nacionalidade  Portuguesa ou da Uni\u00e3o Europeia<\/span><br \/><b><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">-Boletim de Admiss\u00e3o (mod  Rv-1005\/2008),<\/span><\/b><br \/><b><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">-Cart\u00e3o de  Contribuinte e Bilhete de Identidade<\/span><\/b> <span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">( em tamanho AMPLIADO e  LEG\u00cdVEL)<\/span><br \/><i><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">Para  Estrangeiros<\/span><\/i><br \/><b><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">-Boletim de  admiss\u00e3o (mod Rv-1005\/2008),<\/span><\/b><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman;\"><br \/><\/span><b><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">-Boletim de  trabalhador estrangeiro (mod Rv-1006\/2008)<\/span><\/b><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman;\"><br \/><\/span><b><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">-Cart\u00e3o de  Contribuinte<\/span><\/b> <span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">( em tamanho AMPLIADO e LEG\u00cdVEL)<\/span><br \/><b><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">-Passaporte com visto ou Titulo de Resid\u00eancia<\/span><\/b><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">( em tamanho AMPLIADO e LEG\u00cdVEL )<\/span><span style=\"font-family:Times New Roman;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;\">Na falta do visto,  dever\u00e1 enviar o contrato de trabalho assinado pelas partes e devidamente  autenticado com fotoc\u00f3pia de BI do legal representante da firma  .<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p> <span lang=\"pt\"><i><span style=\"font-family:Roman;\">Clara Cunha<\/span><\/i><br \/><span style=\"font-family:Century Gothic;font-size:85%;\">Centro Distrital de Lisboa -Areeiro<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family:Century Gothic;font-size:85%;\">Identifica\u00e7\u00e3o e Enquadramento de Pessoas Singulares  II<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family:Century Gothic;font-size:85%;\">Termina\u00e7\u00e3o 4 &#8211; 5 &#8211; 6 ( NISS da  Entidade Empregadora )<br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/><\/span><\/span><br \/>This is the copy\/paste of the answer. Even if you dont know portuguese you can understand the difficulty on understanding. Where to find the mod RV-1005\/2008? No idea. Maybe I should ask this lady of the &#8220;termination 4-5-6 (social security of the employing entity)&#8221; as she kindly signs. Maybe she is playing to much the lottery.<span lang=\"pt\"><span style=\"font-family:Century Gothic;font-size:85%;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Now that I need to become a citizen again, leaving the cern paradise, I find again the bureaucracies in Portugal. 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